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Supplements - Vitamin D 5000 IU a day - Fishoil (omega 3) My schedule: Week 1-12: Clomid 25 mg @ EOD. BUT i did not recover in several months. I can tell you don't have much experience with steroids. This can be more useful than lab results. Your protocol that you described in the “HPTA Restart Protocol” thread is the most sensible I have found after 3 months of research. Any thoughts, if this might actually work? Ya know? •   Fri, May 30th, '14 00:20   •   35 replies, 12727 views, http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/102444-famous-power-pct-program-dr-michael-scally.html, Hpta Restart protocol/power pct by Dr. Michael Scally. Scally’s protocol probably wrong. You have to watch out for bro-science. My Advice is stick to the Protocol 100% . People always say they're recovered, but it takes a longer time to truly recover. And I'm far from a newb. After getting my blood work done again last week, i received the results this morning and my Testosterone has gone up to 460 ng/dL from 129 2 months ago. I was worried about sexual function as when I came off before I had no sex drive and struggled to have sex without Viagra. Thanks, It's been a year for now as a natty and i'm happy with that. Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day) Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day has anybody tried it? Guess I’m going to have to work on my personality lol. #1 - PCT and HPTA Normalization Post cycle therapy Welcome to the Peak-Muscle.com forums. Scally is bogus and because many refer to his PCT does not mean that it is correct, safe or effective. 4) as far as i know HGC will not help bring your hpta system back. I took prohormones, Promagnon 25 (4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3, 17b-diol), for a peroid of 5 months in 2007. As you're 23 your biggest mistake was running cycles at all. You can check overall thyroid function by checking oral body temperatures as per the thyroid basics sticky. Toremefine Nolva pct. That was my mistake and shut me down very hard. He said there is some evidence that adding Nolva to an AI does not increase the effectiveness of estro control therefore Nolva has no real advantage alongside an AI unless one is experiencing gyno. This was posted at a forum I belong to by a member named Pikiki. Last week I got off the Testogel and attempted some sort of HPTA restart. Anyone have any recommendations? Ex Dr Scally's protocol is very outdated. Cambridge, MA. 29. If you did not use HCG during your cycle, here is a variation of Dr. Scally's PCT protocol for AAS users (his experience and expertise speaks for itself) HCG 2000iu E3D for 14 days before pct start date. Rookie … I'm going to try this protocol on my next round, which will be with deca, except I'll probably lower the clomid dose for a few weeks. pioneered the use of three drugs in the world’s first clinically-tested PCT treatment protocol. There are no published data on the subject, so this book is groundbreaking. There are no published data on the subject, so this book is groundbreaking. ChelseaNYC. Free Test - 12.6 pg/mL normal 35-155 I did overdosage Trenbolone Acetate. The Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis, or HPTA for short, is the thermostat for your body’s natural production of testosterone. Swales HCG protocol Swale's HCG advice by swale (MD / hrt specailist). The argument, I guess, is for the "fullest" recovery. well i have already been off cycle allot longer than i was on and i am just getting back to normal test ranges due to bad PCT among other things. Clomid only recoveries, nolva only recoveries...they've all worked for many people. ReddIt. There are many recent peer reviewed studies by the endocrinology society that offer much better advice. First- they administration of PCT meds start the day after AAS cessation. It can only be of benefit you. Hey, I'm similar boat as you and I would like to get to know more ! I will like to heard your opinions on this PCT and start a good discussion about it. ChelseaNYC. Dr. Michael Scally PCT Protocol: Labs: TT FT E2 LH/FSH prolactin fasting glucose fasting cholesterol - can … Or i can start Dr. Michael Scally's Hpta Restart protocol which has " successfully treated more than 100 cases of hypogonadism/hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism, and is very well known in the field of androgen replacement therapy" if you do not know what this is i posted it below and also attached a link that is also below. It makes more sense to me if i ran a protocol that has been proven rather than working with an endo who doesn't have much experience. It makes you 21 when you jumped on tren. This is such of interesting read for me that I share this info with some close friends here in the forum( you all my friends BTW) There is so much to read about this guy and his base on stuides results from AAS user and their recovery that is amazing IMO. I'll follow through with the protocol and show my pre- and post- blood work in a couple months for sure. I'm going to try out this protocol. Even cialis/viagra did not help me. http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/102444-famous-power-pct-program-dr-michael-scally.html, The famous PoWeR PCT that i plan to use: On cycle Test taper, followed up with Clomid and Test.Days -20 to -14: 50mg Test Prop EDDays -14 to -07: 25mg Test Prop EDDays -07 to 00: 25mg Test Prop E2DDays 00 to 04: NothingDays 04-14: Clomid @ 50mg, Nolva @ 40mg EDDays 15-25: Clomid @ 25mg, Nolva @ 20 mg ED. I know when I start reading about it I got confused cause is way diffrent what he stated base on his studies from what I read before. He developed a PCT programme which has become the most trusted and clinically supported PCT available. Jesus!!!! i am in the same situation my friend, my blood work came in AND i am in the VERY low of normal. Edited May 15, 2013 by linonel 37 weeks...Jelly. There is also an HPTA restart sticky. I’m 45 and wake up with a hard on every morning, something I did not do before the protocol. I followed the Protocol to the letter, the evidence I can offer is purely down to my experience. Or i can start Dr. Michael Scally's Hpta Restart protocol which has " successfully treated more than 100 cases of hypogonadism/hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism, and is very well known in the field of androgen replacement therapy" if you do not know what this is i posted it below and also attached a link that is also below. She has me scheduled for a brain MRI to make sure i have no underling causes, after we get the results back and assuming everything in normal on the MRI i am going to have a couple options. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. Scally successfully applied his ASIH treatment protocol to over 1,000 non-medical steroid users seeking to restore the full functioning of their hypothalmic-pituitary-testicular axis (HPTA). I found 100mg of Clomid quite difficult due to visions issues but I stuck with it and I've had no further issues with my sight. So i decided to do PowerPCT to restart my HPTA. Yeah, probably. Scally … Day 31-45 : Nolva 40mg/day (20mg was taken twice per day). The protocol worked for me, 6 months on and all the improvements I got from doing it are still here. Apologies if this was already posted at a different time. Please post your thoughs and lets discuss about this base on our readings, reaserch and experience. This serves to maintain testicular form and function. Continuing his education, Dr. Scally trained at Parkland Memorial Hospital, Southwestern Medical School. Is There A … Too much testosterone, and the furnace will shut off. Found this HPTA Restart Protocol from 2013 posted in another forum(the guy who wrote it is inactive). As part of his protocol, Scally prescribed anabolic steroids to patients after their testosterone levels came back within normal range, even though returning the testosterone level to normal was the purported goal of restarting the HPTA feedback loop. It was a protocol recommended by a medical professional, which was why I posted it; I thought it was interesting and worth discussing. Did you start the power pct , the day after your last pin or did you wait for the gear to clear up before injecting hcg ?? I am a 23 year old male who is suffering from low libido, ED, and all the typical symptoms of low testosterone/high estrogen levels. Days 1-45 nolva 20mg ED, Total Test - 129 ng/dL normal 250-100 It took 6 months for the total to fully recover. I am not qualified to give you advice but the reason I did this PCT when all the Bro-science remedy's didn't work , was because it is designed by someone who is qualified , respected and knows his shit. That clomid dose would have me crying over spilt milk. Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day) Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day. FSH - .9 mIU/mL normal 1.4-18.1, I just wanted to offer some feedback regarding Dr Scallys power PCT. Besides that you're 23 and have been running high amount of tren and test for 4 years. After 3 years of using then abusing I decided that I wanted to fully come off. I've talked to many good endo like John Christer for exemple. vitamin d stacked with daa work a treat. Scally protocol is not good at all. Just wondering what were your bloods before and aftert PCT. Maybe even longer. 1a) get testes physically recovered with 4-6 weeks of hCG or SERM [suggest nolvadex, not clomid]. I don't doubt they can recover at all. Traditional PCT Programme There’s a guy called Dr Michael Scally, who is one of the leading people in the hormone replacement field. Too Young For TRT? Steroids with Michael Scally, M.D. 33 In other words, Scally was prescribing anabolic steroids to otherwise healthy patients. I also want to start a discussion here on this protocol - what you guys think, and what protocol worked well for you after using drugs like 19-nors. You have to watch out for bro-science. You can check overall thyroid function by checking oral body temperatures as per the thyroid basics sticky. I would also ask you to watch and read the book from Thomas O'Connor which is a much more accurate doc than the bro science father, doctor Scally (which is now out of the map) Scally completed the first year of postgraduate medical residency in general surgery followed by postgraduate medical residency in anesthesiology. The only thing i have been taking is vitamin-D at 5000iu daily for about a month. From 1975-1980, in the M.I.T. Please join this discussion about The famous PoWeR PCT Program by Dr. Michael Scally within the Anabolic Steroids category. What do you think? Scally is bogus and because many refer to his PCT does not mean that it is correct, safe or effective. I had bloods done on the NHS because I went to see my GP but they were useless, they didn't give me the results and said my T was in normal ranges. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. It's been a while since i've recovered. WhatsApp. I will get some new bloods to see what levels i have maintained. Use the magnifying glass up top. Come join us in on one of the best online fitness communities. Day 1-30 : Nolva 40mg/day (20mg was taken twice per day) ; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day) Day 31-45 : Nolva 40mg/day (20mg was taken twice per day). During a cycle is not to worried about too much cause test increase IGF-1 levels on a dose dependant relationship. I don't understand how i don't feel like trash with my levels being so freaking low. stick with me. http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/toremifene-pct-to-answer-all-those-questions. Look up Dr. Scally's Power PCT 11-28-2017, 11:05 PM #3 Ok we cover this part, AI is also look from Dr Scally as part of a PCT. As well, some people get shut down much harder than others. So would you recommend for a basic 12 week cycle of 250 Test E EOD to pct with nolva and clomid, or will nolva by itself do? yeah, you're right. I was just rereading the original posting and that was exactly what it was intended for. Days 1-30 Clomid 100mg ED Any reason you tapered down the test dosage over a few weeks? But for PCT is a diffrent story cause that can be a not very pleasent feeling at this point. His AI of choice is Aromasin during cycle and PCT as well for the simply fact on his conclusion that Aromasin does its job on the enzymes and those particular enzymes will longer function. Days 1-16 HCG 2500Iu EOD I am going to wait another month and get blood work again to check my Test,LH,FSH levels to see if i am ready to cycle again. I read before this is a waste of HCG but he stated this method is more effective( at least for test C & 19nor which is in this case). Dr. Scally, why don’t you tell us a little bit about your background so that people know who you are? Thats absurd that you think you need that much HCG t recover. Twitter. Lets be clear on a fact tha he work with guys who were on AAS cycle of test Cyp and Nandrolone decanoate for 12 weeks. A restart protocol as nothing to do with what scally says. Dr Scally reviews data on the use of anabolic steroids for the following medical uses: After 5 months of test tren cycle i haven't recovered. I want to heard from you guys, what you guys think about Dr Scally PCT protocol. So Yes I'd say you're fucked. Do you have some bloods to post to show your recovery? Please join this discussion about The famous PoWeR PCT Program by Dr. Michael Scally within the Anabolic Steroids category. My libido is high and energy levels are up. I've used his basic protocol many times myself but I do feel like it is important to give credit to the two men that originated this PCT protocol - Dan Duchaine and Fred Hatfield. Happily discussing all things related to the safe usage of AAS, TRT or hormone replacement with the exception of sourcing information. As part of his protocol, Scally prescribed anabolic steroids to patients after their testosterone levels came back within normal range, even though returning the testosterone level to normal was the purported goal of restarting the HPTA feedback loop. I like the clomid + nolva + hcg combo; the science is definitely there. Go and get some professional help. For the love of God's divine providence, keep us updated. I wasn't recommending anything to anyone, nor was I insisting you need any of it. one option is work with her and come up with a plan even though she has not much experience. I was tired and my libido was completely off. html Below is a PCT protocol by Cr Swale. This is an abstract of a report of a few patients who used Dr Michael Scally’s HPTA protocol. I am currently doing the power PCT just as you described (currently at day 12) and feel like my E2 has risen too high and the positive feelings I had when i started the HCG have diminished. Why are you coming off? I thought it was really interesting hearing advice on a restart by a M.D. Scally … I'm asking because I'm considering using Aromasin, but at the same time I don't want to deviate from the protocol. I'm glad to hear that your have recovered. I want to heard from you guys, what you guys think about Dr Scally PCT protocol. I took 100mg a day for 30 days, I had a few mild sides , mainly a very little bit of visual disturbance , not enough for me to discontinue but enough for me to notice. Day 1-20 : 2000iu HCG every other day. Discussing sources will get you banned. I feel like absolute death through out the day. Day 1-30 : Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day) Day 31-45 : Nolva 20mg/day has anybody tried it? Lets be clear on a fact tha he work with guys who were on AAS cycle of test Cyp and Nandrolone decanoate for 12 weeks. There is also an HPTA restart sticky. INFO. The protocol for HPTA normalization contains (edited on Dec 2017): First 15 days: HCG 1,000-2,000 IU (subcutaneous) every 3 days; Clomiphene citrate 25-50 mg orally once a day; and Tamoxifen 20 mg orally once a day. A type II AI will compete with the aromatase enzyme and then eventually unbind from it and it will be active again, this can cause the undesirable estro bound. Do your research and find a good endo and hope like hell he can get your restarted. Currently I'm recovering on clomid only, and I'm sure I'll be fine as well. None the less, I think at lower doses, it's a good protocol, especially for 19-nors, which are notoriously difficult to recover from, namely nandralone. We know for most part we wait for about 14-21 days for long esters to clear or when start feeling the crash to start PCT. Also I'm looking to restart my system with Clomid for a month to give myself an indefinite break from messing with my HPTA. As of this moment i plan to get the brain MRI to make sure i have no other issues causing the shutdown, then i plan to start the below protocol and get bloods done a month after finishing. Why ``How To Lower SHBG Levels?`` is NOT the Right Question - SHBG Testosterone. Read the rules to learn how to become an approved submitter. Not a good move but it seems you know this already. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Excerpt: Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day. I've seen several members pop in and say, "HEY IM GOING TO RESTART AFTER A YEAR OF XXX AND XXX AND I ONLY HAVE THIS DRUG TO RECOVER", with the utmost confidence, but they never return to update us on their recovery nor do they respond to PMs. BELOW ARE THE RESULTS OF MY HPTA RESTART 2012 Here is my bloodwork today from two days ago from Questlabs ONE MONTH SINCE THE END OF PCT (not Labcorp like before in 2007) at 10:30 in the morning Total Testosterone on scale of 241-827 , I tested at 514 FSH on scale of 1.6 to 8.0, I was 6.7 LH on scale 1.5 to 9.3, I tested at 5.3 Any thoughts, if this might actually work? Another option is looking for another endocrinologist who has experience with my situation. The HCG was stopped about the time the esters cleared so that estrogenic activity from the HCG would be reduced. Facebook. I trust endocrinologists over bros when it comes to health. Hey, I followed PCT protocol mentioned by user sahmoo. 1-35 clomiphene 50mg morning and night. Just want to let you all know that i have finally recovered. it will help your testicles produce some natural test and some sperm, but it actually hinders the hpta if ur goal is to bring it back (i may be wrong) here is my protocol for trying to kickstart my hpta Nolvadex 40mg per day (20mg 2x a day) for 2 weeks MICHAEL SCALLY (MS): My education includes a double degree major in Chemistry (1975) and Life Sciences (1975) from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.) Scally’s protocol probably wrong. Rookie Join … By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I am so glad that Dr Scally wrote a simple explanation on a protocol that may help reset our body's own hormonal axis to prevent the debilitating effects of "post-steroid crashing." Scally protocol is not good at all. Press J to jump to the feed. It's good to hear it worked for you. there is also the study that shows halving the dose of clomid and the addition of 5000iu of Vit D per day to be just as beneficial to aid HPTA recovery. I am 27 years old and shutdown from prior steroid cycles and being very dumb. Apologies if … I already tried and there response was wait 6 months to see how my body responds and then go from there , I'm sorry my information is wrong for some reason I just logged in after a very long while I'm actually 25. so if you can give more specifics like if you got results back from Power PCT and they have sustained at those levels for awhile that would be nice and what exactly you did, etc. Source: I'm one of those guys who gets brutal shut down. Have you got a link to the vitamin D study? He stated tha contrary of what is typically recommend was succesfull on 19 men on this study. Dr Scally reviews data on the use of anabolic steroids for the following medical uses: Can any body suggest, a plan of PCT action (if that is what i needed). Come join us in on one of the best online fitness communities. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Sahmoo , I just had one question , did you start the protocol the day after your last pin or did you wait a couple of weeks from your last pin to take your first hcg shot , I was very stupid , and started taking gear without ever thinking of the consequences, got some tren and test from my really ripped and huge boss and all I thought was I wanna get big like that , felt how amazing it felt to be on it and have been running high amounts of tren and test for the last 4 years with only 2 short breaks in between , now I wanna try to get my self back to as normal as possible , and want to try this protocol, as i know now after doing tons of research that I have basically fucked my self up , but still this protocol gives me hope and want to get everything right. Long should i wait before starting a new cycle `` is not good at all dr scally hpta restart protocol by Harvard Medical.! That offer much better advice HCG treatment 2 SERMs drugs will continued administrated for another weeks... 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